Olongapo City, Philippines – My Home
In 2005, I made a conscious decision to move to the Philippines permanently. It wasn't until after I arrived in April of 2006 that I decided to make Olongapo City my home. Many factors led up to both decisions, some of which are too personal to write about. Here's a little history for you.
The Rebirth of the Philippines and then Olongapo City
After the Japanese were defeated in 1945, the Philippines was granted independence from the US on July 4, 1946. The Philippines recognizes and celebrates the earlier Independence Day of June 12, 1898, when Emilio Aguinaldo declared independence after the Spanish-American war.
Unlike the rest of the Philippines, Olongapo City continued to be governed as a part of the US naval reservation until the lobbying efforts of James Gordon (half American-half Filipino) resulted in it being turned over to the Philippine government and converted into a municipality on December 7, 1959. Mayor James Gordon succeeded in having it reconverted to a chartered city on June 1, 1966, which administers itself autonomously from the Zambales province.
1992 was another rebirth of sorts. After the treaty for the Subic Bay Naval Station ran out, the son of the previous mayor and mayor at the time, Richard Gordon, succeeded in getting the land turned into the Subic Bay Freeport Zone. Shortly thereafter, most of the places that catered to the service members closed down, causing a severe impact on the local economy. It wasn't as severe as the eruption of Mount Pinatubo in 1991, which left 14 inches of wet ash on the city, but the city recovered from the eruption much more quickly than from the loss of jobs the base provided when it closed in 1992.
Since that time, new businesses both in Olongapo City and at the freeport zone have sprung up and the economy is better now than it was before, at least in my opinion.
My Neighborhood
Olongapo City is broken down into 17 administrative subdivisions called barangays, the smallest of the subdivisions in the country. Formerly known as barrios (from the Spanish history, and some areas are still called that), it's the native Filipino term for a village, district or ward.
I live in the barangay of Santa Rita. I can't tell you how big the barangay is, or even how big the city is, because there are no local maps. When I was here in the 1980s, the real population of the city was estimated at between 50,000 and 100,000 people. As of the 2000 census, there were around 200,000 people and there could be more than 300,000 by 2010.
My wife and I bought the lot next to the lot we live on now back in 1987. My parents-in-law and her siblings moved there. In 2004 or 2005, I forget, we bought this lot. Our original intention was just to own it to prevent anyone else from building between the creek and their houses. In 2006, we built our house on this lot.
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Hi RT,
It was actually Emilio Aguinaldo who acknowledged Phil. independence.
I remember all the classroom debates on my social studies classes in the time the Phil. senate was to vote to renew the US Bases.
I should say Subic is indeed one of the country's booming business hub. And I think the people there have adopted to the way Americans live having been under the US Naval Reserve jurisdiction for a time, which is a good thing for Filipinos.
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I stand corrected. I had the two names confused in my head. As a matter of fact, I was talking to my oldest sister-in-law this morning and she kept correcting me on the pronunciation of "Aguinaldo", so I'm not sure why I typed in the wrong name. Anyway, I fixed it. Thanks.
Congratualations on the lot and the house building…Sounds like a nice place to live the Philippines.. Do you have any pics of the area..
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Not right now, it's too hot (summer) to be walking around to get pictures. I hope to get quite a few when the temps come down in August-September.
Nice to know, I have always liked to know more about different places… But I found it quite difficult to do in the history classes
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Actually… I read yours and then wrote mine.
Sounds like a cool setup. Whats the weather like?
Hot and Humid most of the time.
RT,
When and if you have the time or inclination I would love to hear more about life in the Philippines. Loved the post.
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I'll try. I want to include pictures as I go, but it's hard to do since I don't want to get out of the car.
RT
If you happen to take some photos get some of Magsaysay and Gordon Ave. I'd like to see how the investments of most of my military pay in the 70's are doing.
That should be happening pretty soon, I should think. Damn, and I thought I was getting old.
LOL What's that supposed to mean?
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I guess you got a whole slew of us waiting to see pictures now
Other than the humid part and the insect part, it sounds great. Of course, we have humid with a billion mosquitoes and little black ants every summer in Alberta Can., but that only lasts a couple months. Then cold weather kills all the bugs. Yay!
I miss Olongapo, reading your blog brings back old memories. Hoping to visit back soon.
Been in Olongapo and the Subic Freeport for a day last year. Really nice place. I like it more than Manila.
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great article. i would wanna know more about your life in the philipines!
That was a nice history lesson on the Philippines. I can't imagine leaving the United States, and if I did, it would probably be to Canada or England, a country that is somewhat similar to the US.
Canada or England? Hum? Just make sure you are healthy as you can wait for two years to see a specialist. And don't forget about the 60% tax rates in those countries, however the U.S. is not far behind with new soon-to-be Obamocare and the Obamaonomics.
I quite miss the Philippines. I've been in Olongapo City several times and I really love the place. If you guys want to know more about the Philippines, just let me know. I am a real Filipino.
Hmmm… did I ever indicate anywhere on this blog that I'm a true Filipino?
Hi RT, I too would like to see a picture of the ol' homestead when you get a chance. I'm also wondering what you mean by "we built our house". How much did you do yourself, and how much was farmed out, and was it different doing it in the Philippines instead of the US? Perhaps this could be the subject of a post when you've got the picture. I only ask because I have two friends that built their own houses (or really managed the construction to varying degrees). They did it to "save money", but in both cases they were semi-nightmares. One now has a house, one is still in the works.
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I married a beautiful young lady who was working in a gift shop in Olongapo,36 years ago, still married. She worked at Sally Gift Shop, 36 Magsaysay Dr. If you have a chance can you check out what is now at that address.
Thanks
I'll look when I'm in that area. I rarely go on Magsaysay Drive nowadays.
I finally made it down to Olongapo today and managed to find # 36 Magsaysay. It is now a beauty parlor "Salon De Salle" I took 7 Photos. I'll see if untwisted vortex can send them to you.
I have photos of the address you asked about, courtesy of VFW Post 11447, Subic Bay. Please provide an email address to get them. Or contact them at vfw11447@ymail.com, put attn: Dennis Doty
Tom, Dennis
Thanks for going to the trouble of taking the pictures and sending them to me. Wow, it sure has changed, we were in the Philippines at Christmas, but never made it to Olongapo. Now I want to go back and see it in person. If we ever make it back I will buy you both dinner.
Thanks Again
Cliff
Hi Cliff
Could you please contact me. I used to go to Sally's
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Were you stationed at Subic, or on a ship? What years were you there?
Hi guy's, i was born in olongapo city
It's very nice place to go.I'll go back in olongapo next year,see you there!!!!!!!!!!!
My older son was born here too, in 1980.
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I lived in Olongapo for about 10 years in the day. Back then it was a true sailors dream. Can't wait to get back in a couple of months to see how everything has changed.
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You impressed me with your experience in Olonapo. I was born and grew up in Olongapo. After I finished college in Columban, I was able to get a job inside the base as a bank teller at American Express. and the base was instrumental to my residence here in the US. Keep up the good work RT I like the positive outlook that you share with other people.
hello im romanian i live 3 months in subic bay i lived in crown pic and olongapo was the best thing who happend in my entire life i wish to come back there but i dont now when i will have possibility im in love to this places i feel like a filipino
Hi danie if you don't mind could tell me how Olongapo became the best thing that happened in your life? Did you find the love of your life?
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I too would like to move to Olongapo City. At the present time I am searching for a very sweet lady I met in March 1968. I lasst saw her in August 1982 (I was married then). I am now a widower and am anxious to locate her so that she and I may be reunited. Her name is Virginia Empasis and she lived there in Olongapo City – I don't know if she still resides there. I am not accustomed to living by myself, I need a companion badly.
Olongapo City PI I was there in 1971-72 when my ship the Coral Sea cv43 came to port. Had the best time of my life. Now it seems like a dream. Ill never forget the city. Back then it was a Navy town. All the fun you could have and then some. The monkey meat was great food and tasted really great, I really miss the city and all it had to offer and it had anything you wanted and then some, yes I wont forget OLONGAPO CITY PHIPPINES! One thing more when i was married I sponsored a boy over there. I followed him though high school till he went to collage, Ill really miss him also. so too the city and the young man take care of yourself, from a Navy man 71-72 Coral Sea cva43, bye for now, maybe ill see you in Heaven Danhftb@yahoo.com
Hi Filipino Friend, I eat my heart out hearing about Olongapo. Fell in love with the Filipino people. I aften look for people looking for an American father from the USS Passumpsic AO107. They would be 34 to 35 years old. You know how young men are & where. I was there in 1972.
this is a nice place that i visited last year..
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Hi,
My last name is Velasco. I lived in Olongapo for 2 different tours. My Dad was Filipino & Mom was American. Can't remember address from 1st trip but wasn't far from 220(?)Johnson where we had to move to after a mudslide happened where we were living that destroyed some houses and families up on a hill. While living in that area, some of us kids would 'rodeo ride' the Calibou that were being held next to our bus stop. Behind our place on 'the hill' was a house/business that did rataan work whose kids I played with and would watch them make stuff. I only have a couple old B/W pics now of the view from up there and it was nice. After the slide, we moved 'down into town' on what seems like Johnson. I can remember the 1st floor of our house flooding occasionally often also having fish & crabs in the living room! The open market catching on fire twice and being looted. There was a cockfighting areana just down the street. I became an entrapeneur selling gum, cigs, etc around the Fil-Am area all the way up to near the Main gate where 'Pauline's' was located. Well, enough for now. Those were some days (last trip late 60's). Take care to all.
I moved to Sta Rita/Olongapo City in November 2008 after I visited my girlfriend, now wife in January 2008.
I plan on buying two Jeepneys to start a business.
I decided to move here from Ohio, USA. I grew tired of the double standards and political correctivness in the USA.
I am here with my beautifil Filipna wife and three wonderful step-daughters. My wife is expecting in May, 2009.
If you are tired of the same old crap in the USA and have some money saved, come and visit Olongapo. The people are mabait(kind) and treat you like a native.
Olongapo ROCKS!!
Hi Michael,
I never intended to retire and move to Olongapo, but circumstances prevailed. After watching both sons leave home, me and my wife spent way too much time looking at each other. The PC thing and more than double standards (more like three or four), along with some personal reasons, were the final things that sent me packing.
Did I read that you live in Sta Rita RT?
I am at Balic-Balic and Capricorn.
Please advise if you want to meet.
Take Care
I sent you an email.
Hi there enoy the site. I recently went to a Filipina American Christmas party and it got me thinking of the P.I. and Olongapo where I visited a couple times in 1990 abord the USS Carl Vinson. The girl who laid claim to me was Laura Ignacio. I didn't realize that she was seriously intending to be my lady as I was young and thought that it was all a $ game to them. I wonder if she got married and is doing well today. How would one find out these things? Anyways your site is neat as you seem to have a good life there.
There's no way to know. Tracking anyone by name only is practically impossible.
Concerning an earlier matter of authenticaying my US marraige with the Philippine Consulate:
I "Fed-exed" the required documents to my parents in Ohio. They then mailed these documents thru the US mail to the Philippine Consulate in Chicago.
About one week later ,the authenticated document was returned to my parents. My parents then Fed-exed them back to me here in Olongapo City.
I am now working on getting my Non-Quota visa. I will be going to Manila after Jannuary 1rst, as applying here thru Immigration in Olongapo City is much too expensive. Estimated between 30,000 and 50,000 pesos.
I'll keep you updated.
Take care,
Michael A. LaPerna
You may want to reconsider. It isn't any cheaper in Manila. That's where I did mine and it ran about 50,000 pesos total.
Thanks for the info. We went to Immigration and Swagman Travel here in Olongapo.
Maybe it would be less hassle just to arrange it here if Manila is also expensive.
Please fill me in on details of this non-quota visa. Does it mean I do not have to leave the country.
Am I issued some type of card that allows me to stay?
Any help would be appreciated.
Do you still have my email addy? I'd like to have you over the house soon.
truckermikemct@aol.com
Ingat po,
Michael
Hi RT,
One thing I miss about America is eating raviolis.
Can't find them anywhere here. Checked markets in Olongapo, Subic Royal and Freeport exchange in SBMA.
Even looked at the SM Supermarket in Pampanga.No luck.
I did see an Italian restaurant near Royal, but have not been there yet.
Any help would be very appreciated.
Thanks as usual,
Michael
The only ravioli I've seen comes in (yuck) Chef Boyardee.
Thanks. I forgot to mention that I saw in cans also.
I'm trying to locate the frozen ravs. Rosetto makes good ravioli. I wrote them and explained my situation. No response yet.
My mother offered to send some from Ohio, but has to be very expensive. So I don't think that will work.
Thanks again RT
Things are looking up here in Olongapo City for my family and I.
We have had a van that we use for our personal transportation and the business.
Yesterday we purchased our first Jeepney, with hopes of purchasing another in the near future.
We have a child due in May, so the extra income would sure come in handy.
Will keep you posted.
Take care,
Michael
There is a Italian restaurant in Barrio Barretto, on the left side just past the turn for the Suzuki Hotel. You will find much more foreigner friendly businesses here too…
Maraming salamat Tom. We do travel to Baretto once in a while. I'll check it out next time.
Ingat,
Michael
You must like it thier because most people would not stay after volcanic eruption. I am suprised how many places want a US base out then have problems because they loose so many business owners. In the States they never want any base to close because of the money they get from it.
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Olongapo is a really nice town with friendly people. I lived in Olongapo over 25 years ago. I went to grade school in Santa Rita Elementary School and some of my family friends and relatives are still residing there. Last time I visited the town was in December 2001. I stayed at one of the Subic Base Lodging. I remembered dining at "Kongs" (a chinese-fiipino restaurant)located in downtown Magsaysay. They serve good tasting dishes for a fair price. Olongapo City has really grown from the time I left it. Anyway, it is nice to read about my hometown. I plan to visit there soon.
Yes i too have heard that Olongapo is nice place to live in. But i really doubt about the capability of this place to provide job and better career prospects to the people living in there.
Hi frogger
I was wondering why you would think that Olongapo wouldn't be a good place for employement? For Filipinos it offers great career prospects. For Americans, unless they are operating their own business they can forget about making a living just about anywhere in the Philippines because I believe there is a law that states Filipinos must be hired first.
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Yes the law states states Filipinos must be hired first.
As any business starting must help the local people to help cut povity.
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I was a Marine in Olongapo during 1975, 1979 on a ship, 1986 – 1989. Station Dito! I met my asawa, a cebuana, in 1996 in the States, and we have been happily married ever since.
We go back to Cebu every other year. I love my wife's family, but my heart belongs to Olongapo!
I cried like baby when I said "good-bye" for the last time to my friends in 1989 because I knew the base was closing down and I would never come back.
I married a beautiful young lady who was working in a gift shop in Olongapo,36 years ago, still married. She worked at Sally Gift Shop, 36 Magsaysay Dr. If anybody that lives in Olongapo has a chance can you check out what is now at that address.
Thank You
Cliff
Cliff
Did you get my message to contact me? I wanted to talk to you about Sally Gift Shop.
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Sorry, When were you there? I was there in late '70 and early '72.
My wife and I just returned from Olongapo and Manila a few weeks ago. You can view images of our visit by searching youtube at veteranphotographer (all one word).
The last time I visited the city was after Desert Storm in 1991. The place has changed for the good. However, the things that Sailors wanted back then are still available but more under cover. The "buy me drink" places are now video Kareoke (sic) clubs. One can see these all over the place.
Olongopo is not doing as well as the SBMA. Why? People travel right by the city and into the SBMA to spend tourist dollars. However, the city is doing well and as never looked so good. I remember the market being the same as in the early 1980s when I was strationed in the city.
My lovely bride of 27 years asked me to buy land and build her a home. I can never say no to her. We purchased some land in a place near Club Moracco called Costa Malaga. Since Donald Trumph invested a billion in the area I thought it would be good for me too! At any rate, on youtube you can see the beach area where we purchased property. Our home is currently under construction by a father and son team. I can't mention their names or their organization's names because the tax people in the Philippines will be all over them. At any rate, we are building an two story home using U.S. building standards. The walls will be cement and not hollow block. Hollow block has a strenght rating 10 times lower than an integrated cement wall system.
The major issue I noticed in the city were all the cars. Many privately owned vehicles and of course I noticed the new super hiway the Japanese built to subic from clark.
What a great place to live! If one has a $100,000 to blow, why not build a home! However, watch out, the home will belong to your filipina bride no matter what. She can sell it without the husband's permission. If one has a good marriage go for it, if not DON'T DO IT!
Regards,
Bill
@RT and @Bill,
I wonder if either of you is in Olongapo / Subic betewen now and April 6, 2009. I am in Olongapo between this period on a volunteer assignment working towards identifying tourism marketing potential of the city.
If possible, I would like to do an interview (formal or in-formal, per your preference) with you to understand your views on the city and its potential.
If you are open to the idea, please let me know your contact details and I will reach out to you.
Regards,
Neeraj
I don't really do interviews about stuff like that. My opinions are public on this blog and that's about as far as I go with it. Besides, I don't get out much when the wife's not around and she won't be back until May at the earliest.
Neeraj
I live in Barrio Barretto, Olongapo City, by choice.
I will make myself available for an informal interview if we can work out an acceptable schedule.
What organization / publication do you represent?
I am in Olongapo through a not-for-profit organization named Australian Business Volunteers and I represent IBM Foundation.
The interview is mostly for internal consumption and for developing my understanding of what are the possibilities for this city.
Are you listed in the city phonebook? I will call you to discuss.
Neeraj,
Sorry I missed your post. I will not be in the Philippines until september, 2009. Plz contact me by email navyphotographer@aol.com if you would like information. I can also provide my PI text number for a contact if you are in PO city.
Bill
I was station at Subic on board the USS Sterett from 85 to 89. I married a beautiful Filipina and have three children, She is from Sta Rita Olongapo. I have been able to go back twice. My wife and two daughters are going back the last week of May to visit her family. I was planning to go back with her but I am changing jobs from the police department to the Sheriffs department. I have always loved the people of the Philippines. I have always had in the back of my mind to retire in Olongapo. I am going to have my wife look for property to invest in.
I am very interested in retirement in Olongapo. I would like to talk with anyone who can give my some information. I'm American, am I allowed permanent residency? What do I need to do ? Thanks for any help you can give me. I can be reached at billh99@yahoo.com
Hi! I was born in Sta. Rita OC and grew up their all my life until 1992 when I came to the U.S. I missed home so much and I'm home sick. Iba talaga if your home. My aunt lives in San Antonio Zambales and i now live in CO. and married to my wonderful AMERICAN husband for 8 yrs now. He is in the MIL. and we plan to retire over there someday if GOD permits I don't mind. Considering the value of $ it will be worth it and we can live life to the fullest out there as long as we know how to budget. Well, I haven't been home for year RT how's OC now and how's the economy out there? Were hoping to retire there someday and open up my own business or take my business to the next level. I have a website now and I sell designer handbags and I hope to put up my own designer store over there someday and oh! how's Magsaysay Drive it's always fun over there well tourist spot for Navy etc. I missed the night life over there too man I wish I was home well take care mabuhay. MJ
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I'm no good for making comparisons. I didn't move here until 2006 and I didn't spend more than a couple of months total between 1983 and 2005. Sta. Rita has more paved roads, that's for sure. The economy is different because it isn't based on the military like it was before. Employment is increasing, slowly, with most of the jobs coming from SBMA or new businesses in OC. I'd still guess that 80 percent of the income is coming from OFW remittances.
Mj,
Business start up opportunities are sparse. You need to find a specific nich in which to market your product. You would need to advantage differentiation in the product you sell as there are so many products available for very little money to include fake Coach Hand bags. You will need to develop a vision, mission, grand and generic strategy before attempting to go into business in PO city. Your functional tactics should be inline with your strategy. In other words, have some objectives you would like to attain. My recommendation is for you to leveral differentiation or perhaps uniqueness. You may also wish to advantagage an environmental analysis to leverage strenghts and weaknesses within your business start up.
Hope this helps.
Bill Lewis
I find Olongapo,to be a boring city
for a city that prides itself on tourism, you see garbage and human waste dumped into the rivers and Ocean… the same Rivers and Ocean that they fish out of and expect the tourist to go swim and scuba diving in… my introduction to it was a womans "maxi pad" floating next to me in the Ocean
I find the customer service in the Filipino based stores/markets in Olongapo to suck, Filipinos here have no concept as to where there pay check comes from,
need to pay a utility bill in Olongapo good luck, you have to show up directly to pay on most times wait 3 or 4 hours to pay a bill
pay late and they charge you interest.
SMBA…. DONT GO TO SMBA….talk about over priced and you still get taxed "duty free" i guess means something else in tagalog
and the guards are idiots talk about not knowing where your paycheck comes from, these guys turn away people, forgetting that the people who they turn away spend money, in the businesses that pay there wages
I find the Filipino people to be uneducated and ignorant, thats because being in school is a money grab for the schools, free education ya right… here is your next project dont have money for your project? o well cant graduate, top that off with not being allowed to graduate unless you go to the graduation ceremony (every grade you have graduation and ceremony) where thats another money grab
the local school took a 2 day break because the mothers were having a VBall tourney???
the only people that want anything to do with you are the poor Filipinos or criminals… and both want to either get something from you like money, food or property
and the Filipinos with money want nothing to do with you,
Speaking of rich, the richest people in this country are Chinese or descended from Chinese… being regarded as second class citizens and most came over here with little or no money in the last century
goes to show you how useless the Filipinos are as a people
Hello, Mr. Negativity. As an American, you would probably expect me to agree with at least one of your points. I can't. You're seeing the worst of the worst and basing all of your opinions on it.
I can argue the flip side of every point you made, but you won't appreciate it unless you open your mind and your heart to the facts and the truth. Sure, the city has problems. Name one city in the entire world that's perfect and I'll call you a liar. The Philippines is an impoverished country with a history of occupation, corruption, and poverty. It doesn't have the advantage of being ruled by one government for even a century, starkly contrasted with the US which has been ruled by one government for more than two centuries.
Education in the Philippines is not free and isn't taxpayer supported, so I don't know where you got the concept of free education from. As far as poor versus rich and whether they want to have anything to do with you, I haven't seen what you describe at all. I can't see your point in the rest of your opinions either.
Pollution is not unique to Olongapo or the Philippines. I was born in Houston, Texas. My parents used to talk about the time the Houston Ship Channel caught fire. And I grew up reading about the Love Canal and the associated birth defects. And I once worked on a construction project for 3M Company, and the ironworkers outside the building, and using a cutting torch to cut steel, actually set the dirt on fire. This was all in the highly advanced US of A. So I guess, compared to those things, give me a maxi pad in the ocean any day. At least you can see that. Keeping the environment clean is everyone's responsibility. Complaining about it doesn't help alleviate the problem. Just my two cents' worth… Billy
Olongapo,
Thanks for the factual information. I found a completely different experience. Perhaps you should take a college course in process management to pay your bills. I would simply have a life helper go pay the electric and water bill. Or, at Gerry's in the SBMA I fed a family of 14 for less than $100. The food was great and I invite anyone to view my youtube footage showing the outstanding customer service at the SBMA @ Gerry's. As far anti filipino attitudes I would only ask you to read any book about the Bataan Death March. Here you will learn about the wonderful filipino people who risk their lives throwing rice at POW on the march in banana leaves. I find it interesting to debate ignorant people who think others are ignorant. And, I actually sign my name. Bill.
It sounds like somebody had a bad experience in Olongapo. As for Filipino's being uneducated and ignorant, I have a hard time with that. The Philippines has the 3rd largest English speaking population in the world, after the US and the UK. Interesting statistic for a place where English is a 2nd language. Fact is most Filipino's are well educated and fluent in English. Sir, how fluent is your Tagalog? It sounds like you were treated poorly by local businesses, I live in the US and I'm quite sure if you go shopping here with the same attitude you'll see the same kind of "customer service". And there's no such thing as "free" education. You can either pay as you go like in Olongapo, or the government will just take the money whether you are a student or not like in the US. Don't be so cynical and negative, try to see the good that surrounds you… there's a lot of it to see. Hope you have a better day tomorrow. Billy Boy
dosent change the fact they are a stupid people, when they graduate, it is like the rest of the worlds grade 10
so says the foreigners here to drink beer and sleep with the underage looking Filipinas…
everything must look so rosy through that San Miguel Beer bottle
It's ironic that your post refers to other people as under-educated and "stupid". I can't help but point out that your three-sentence comment contains not less than nine basic grammar and spelling errors, which would put it at about a third-grade level for English composition. So 10th grade is still a long ways off for you. Maybe you can hire a Filipino tutor to help you? Billy
Bill, ignore this person. I have two words for what he's doing: Troll Alert!
I don't mean to stir the pot, so I say this very, very carefully: most Pinoys do not appear to possess a "command" of the English language, but think they do.
Passable or conversational might be more accurate terms. Those of us that have lived among them will have no problems understanding even the worst engrish'.
Had a conversation with a nurse friend about an infection on my hand. Hydrogen peroxide came up and she advised against it because "it rots human flesh". That's not true and although she did know the correct reaction is capillary embolism, (which causes the temporary whiteness), she didn't see my questioning her other term. Thats when our conversation turned to grammar and word usage – something neither of us are experts in.
I might not be wording my ideas the best, but I think its those little things where the words are 'close enough'.
Here in the Philippines, if someone says "I can have a cheesburger", I know they're asking for a CB. It's passable but it's not correct and would get nothing more than a blank stare or questions in a Micky Dees stateside.
Heheheh funny comment. I usually get a blank stare at Micky Dees here in the US. I once asked "what's the price if I get onion rings instead of fries with that?" and the kid got all flustered and said "I don't know, I just work here…" True story.
I think it all depends on where in the Philippines you are. In Olongapo, most English speakers read and write English very well. I'm going to assume it's because of years of close contact with the American military. I'm also going to assume that it won't always be the case because American contact has dwindled tremendously since the base closure in 1992.
Amazingly, one of my nephews (born in 1985) speaks better English than most Americans (he's half Filipino) and he has never been outside this country. He works as an appliance store salesman and is pending an OFW assignment in Qatar. He turned down one for Saudi Arabia because they offered to pay him less than he makes now (on commission).
I know, I sidetracked, but I just wanted to point out that what you see and think you know isn't always the case.
I plan on visiting Olongapo the second week of June would like to no where I could find photos of Magasasay and the area from the early eighties
Hi Patrick
Try this site http://www.subicbaypi.com It is not my site and it has been around for a long time.
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would like any info on rentals/leasing agents in the area. We are planning on re-locating in July. Thanks
I'm sure they exist, but I'm not aware of them. There aren't any listed in the phone book.
We've opened an office in Davao City and I can't wait to get back for training and to see how everything has progressed. I don't like the heat, but I do like the country.
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I had the privelege and honor to spend a three month stretch in Olongapa;albeit it under grevious circumstances. I was stationed onboard the USS Whiteplains (AFS-4), homeported in Agana,guam. On May 09,1989 a mainspace fire took the lives of five of our crew. Disabled,the ship was towed from the Sea of Japan to Subic Bay. Subic Bay was a routine port of call for ship (but not for extensive stays). During that three month stay I was able to mingle with the locals in Olongapo. As with any impoverished nation there are individuals who will try to swindle and some that mean to do harm. Than again,the same things happens in the most prosperous of nations. I,personally,had an enjoyable experience. I also met a young Pilipina lady who work at a bar… ended up marrying her. She was originally from Bicol province. While working in Olongapo she lived in Santa Rita,not too far from the Victory Liner bus terminal. As a squid (sailor) I loved the night life in all its aspects; the culinary street vendors,Kong's Chinese Restaurant,the bars and those beautiful ladies! My favorite bar was a place called "Snoopy's." It was located on Gordan Avenue;the first right after crossing the bridge that linked Subic Bay Naval Station with Olongapo city. And once Mamasan found out I was engaged to a Pilipina,albeit from a different bar,she put me off-limits to the other ladies. Once married and my wife residing in Guam … same rules applied. When in Olongapo Mamasan -(Snoopy's lounge")- kept me on the straight and narrow. I really admired and respected that woman! anyway,enough of my days of yore. I wanted to comment on the obsurd comments given by one "Olongapo" on May 01,2009. Time 4:40 a.m. Calling anyone stupid,especially on a collective level is extreme ignorance! Oh,wasn't that another term he used regarding the Filipino people? His comments about the education system had some hint of truth to it. Unless things changed for the better(?) free public education was available only up to the sixth grade. Afterwards,sadly,continuing education were for those who could afford to send their children to school. As one of the most impoverished nations on Earth the Philippines has its fair share of prostitution. And since "Olongapo" likes to make light of and degrade these ladies of unfortunate circumstances,well,again,he left out some very insightful facts. Aside from prostitution being tolerated by the U,S. goverment and the Philippine government,it did generate a lot of monetary gain for the community. During the time I was there the Mayor of Olongapo,who educated in the U.S. not that that makes a difference,had used those monies make improvements to Olongapo City. My fiancee and I were riding in a Jeepney one day when she pointed to the side of the road where workers were digging a ditch to install sewer lines… she said,"honey,that's the Mayor!" Guess what? The Mayor was ass and elbows in there with the work crew. Tell me,how many Mayors do you know of who would exert physical energy unless there was media personnel to take note? Again,I got off track. Back to these awful bargirls. Have conversed with quite a few of them,there stories were numerous. Some wanted to marrying an American simply to escape poverty. Yet many more worked the bar scene to support their parents and to ensure their siblings could continue their education. When I met my fiancee she had been working at bars for three years. Yes, she wanted out of the Philippines but she was putting her younger sister through college. Even after leaving the Philippines she supported her sister's college. There are also ladies working at bars in order to send themselves through college. But,in my opinion,most work to survive and support family! Those ladies selflessness sacrifice should not be trodded upon by the likes of "Ologapo" and anyone else not educated on the reality of life for the average citizen in the Republic of the Philippines. This Mr. "Olongapo should count his lucky stars that he does,in fact, live in a prosperous nation. Ignorance is not innate,it is an arrogant,learnt trait. In closing I would like to thank Mr. Olongapo. Although through no fault of hers,my wife and I are no longer together. But I am proud of her and will always love her. You see, for a lady who is uneducated (6th grade),ignorant and a so-called whore… she now works in the healthcare profession as a dietician. And she did so without degrading those less fortunate than her. Nor was she envious of those more fortunate than her. lastly. Thank you RT Cunnungham for sharing your site!!
I love that guy who call himself Olongapo. I hope our path will never cross.
I lived 32 years of my life in Olongapo City but got my Electrical Engineering degree in Manila. I worked in Subic Naval Base PWC as an Electrical Engineer doing Electrical Design. I did a lot of facilities in Subic. Like most Filipinos I also dreamed about going to the States to seek for greener pasture. I had the opportunity of migrating to the states in 1986. Work was hard for somebody who doesn't have local experience. I joined the Navy and retired for almost 3 years now after 20 years of dedicated service. I will definitely go back home for good early next year and will use my GI bill there. I also have good retirement pay plus 70% percent disability pay. I know "I can live there like a king"(quote from most American Sailors). I know a good investment there will be an open bar like Pier One in SBMA. I have been there for numerous occasions and the place is always packed with tourists. The location is nice because you can see the ocean from there. The place is owned by the brother of the late Filipino actor Rudy Fernandez.
Military retirement pay will go a long way in the Philippines because everything is cheap and fresh unlike here in the states where most food are frozen and expensive. In Olongapo you can go for "All you can eat" for $3.00 here your lucky if you can find one for $15.00. Food business is still the best investment in Olongapo with Karaoke bar.
I WAS ONE OF THOSE SERVICEMEN THAT THE CITY CATERED TO.(84-88) I LOVED "PI" THEN AND I STILL DO ! I'VE BEEN THERE 15 TIMES AND PLAN A TRIP SOON.(SEPT/OCT.) I STILL HAVE MANY FRIENDS THERE AS WELL AS MANILIA. MY LAST TRIP THERE(PI) WAS IN DUMAGETTI(CEBU) HAD A BLAST!!! STILL LOOKING TO SETTLE DOWN THERE.
I'M NOT A "BUTTERFLY"…I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT WOMAN
I think its so romantic that you saved the lot from another skyscraper.
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